fuck poorly integrated rollup sell-side mandates. all my homies HATE unintegrated rollups

It is a certain type of hell to try to sell a portco that is just the combination of like 10 different companies that haven't been properly integrated.

PE funds, if you want to snap up small add-ons for 5x and sell it for 15x times FOR THE LOVE OF GOD INTEGRATE THAT SHIT. SAME ERP SYSTEM. SAME HR SYSTEM. ONE EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT TEAM AT THE TOP. 

it's bad enough trying to get this data for book / model prep, but I can't even fathom how much the company will be destroyed by a buyer's due diligence

just another day in the mid market

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  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
3d 

Tell me you're selling an audax portco without telling me you're selling an audax portco 

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
2d 

I mean the entire point of rollup strategies is capital arbitrage it has nothing to do with integration, that is your problem

  • Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
2d 

there is zero justification for arbitrage if it is not integrated into a platform. why wouldn't the buyer just snap up small companies themselves?

  • Intern in IB-M&A
2d 

So they can arbitrage between their lower cost of capital and higher returning assets 

  • Analyst 2 in PE - Other
19h 

Cool. Now go tell that to the lenders and try to explain why all the EBITDA adjustments for one-time acquisition expenses are valid. 

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CharlesCheese, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I'm sure the beautiful deck you build will present it very nicely as a seamless consolidated company, it will draw massive interest from the next group looking to perpetuate the roll-up, due diligence will be hell on earth for every single party involved but still not entirely deter the high interest, despite learning all the shortcomings of the unintegrated business the next sponsor will make mediocre attempts to rectify while continuing to add via acquisition because that's where the value creation lies, the problem will be exacerbated for 4-7 years until they're ready to sell, and the cycle repeats.  Somewhere there is a freshman in highschool who thinks finance is interesting that has no idea that in 5 years his life will be destroyed for 8 months.

As long as the industry or segment in which the roll-up is taking place remains in vogue, there will be someone willing to write a bigger check and try to get their chunk of return out of it.  Once it becomes less of an arms race, valuation will be more informed by integration.

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NoEquityResearch, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Analyst 2 in IB-M&A

It is a certain type of hell to try to sell a portco that is just the combination of like 10 different companies that haven't been properly integrated.

PE funds, if you want to snap up small add-ons for 5x and sell it for 15x times FOR THE LOVE OF GOD INTEGRATE THAT SHIT. SAME ERP SYSTEM. SAME HR SYSTEM. ONE EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT TEAM AT THE TOP. 

Most PE funds are run by former IB-spreadsheet jockies who have no understanding of how a company actually works day to day (things like ERP systems, HR systems, etc). Hence, they also don't understand the inefficiences and risks of having these systems wrong can pose. Hence, a refusal to invest funds into this sort of integration.

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sheldonxp, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Well isn't that what you hire consultants for? To advise on the integration?

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Wacc Me Off, what's your opinion? Comment below:

They just become another voice telling people what to do and theorizing about what would be best, on paper. They don't actually do anything o rintegrate anything. 

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  • Intern in PE - LBOs
1d 

Nice try consultant

  • Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
2d 

buyer diligence request: "can we get [insert basic data request here]"

seller (aka my clown ass): "ok BuT iT wonT bE Pro FoRma For AcquIsiTIoNs"

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Lockwood, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I always wonder what the PE owners of these types of firms actually do. Just lazy.

Must be the easiest job in the world.

F*ck these firms and f*ck management teams that can't even forecast their business properly. /rantover

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Wacc Me Off, what's your opinion? Comment below:

"I thought the bankers build the projections?"

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NoEquityResearch, what's your opinion? Comment below:

It isn't the job of PE to integrate the businesses. That's what management is for. The problem is that sometimes the PE firm is so focused on cost-savings and doesn't understand the importance of integration that they don't give management the resources to integrate the business. 

  • Director in CorpDev
1d 

Don't worry it's just as fun on the PortCo team. Sponsor breathing down your neck to keep pace with deal flow. Half the acquired mgmt teams are incompetent and fight amongst each other. Hire a bunch of worthless consultants that never properly integrate deals or fix issues (don't worry about those costs, everything is an add-back). No idea if my 401k is vesting properly and my paycheck gets messed up every other month but hey at I can sleep well at night knowing my sliver of equity will materialize in the next 24 months.

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StrategyJunkie, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Sponsors will stop once buyers stop paying 15x+ for these POS platforms. Look at car washes, HVAC, landscaping, pest control, etc. It is a complete joke, although many platforms have been hit significantly by higher interest rates. Many needed to inject more equity to save their platforms from beaching covenants, although this isn't publicized. There is pretty little downside in these strategies, as long as you aren't an idiot or over-lever.

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m_1, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I have seen so many shitty platforms that make zero sense with almost no synergy. It is actually nuts to me that anyone buys these. It's like you bought a bunch of 3/10 companies, didn't improve anything, and just glued them together to end up with some kind of C-tier Voltron made of dogshit. 

It's a big reason I am not really comfortable raising a fund to a degree. Feels like you are forced into these deals at a certain size because you HAVE to deploy even when there is nothing worth buying…

Feels like you would be better off being patient and waiting for something beautiful worth allocating into.  But I get the dynamics, need to deploy and keep racking up fees. 

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